This is a formal CALL FOR DISCUSSION for a moderated group. The formal proposal follows: NAME OF GROUP: comp.society.folklore MODERATOR: Eric S. Raymond TOPICS TO BE COVERED: 1. Maintenance and discussion of the Jargon File. 2. Posting/archiving of anecdotes, facetia, and satire illuminating aspects of hacker culture, including things like computer filks and war stories about famous hacks of the past. 3. Accumulation of serious oral-history material from the early days and forgotten but interesting byways of modern computing. 4. Posting/archiving of `retrocomputing' software, that is emulations of archaic environments or tools or `code satires' (things like the JCL and ADVENT shells, INTERCAL, the 029 card-punch emulating editor, 5. Discussion & criticism of hacker-history compendia in other media, esp. books like Jennings' _The_Devouring_Fungus_, Stoll's _Cuckoo's_Egg_, and Steven Levy's _Hackers_. CHARTER: To give the hacker culture an on-line memory. Postings would be carefully selected but not (in general) edited. An archive would be maintained and made publicly available. A fair percentage of the traffic would probably be humor of various sorts, but the criterion for inclusion would be primarily its value as carriers for hacker memes. Attempts to pursue religious wars using the group as a forum would be ruthlessly flushed. The group would be open to co-moderation by representatives of important hacker subcultures past or present, subject to net consensus. RATIONALE: The existing newsgroup with similar name in the ALT heirarchy has a great deal of volume and a problem with noise. This proposal would create a new MODERATED group to cover much of the same material but would endeavor to reduce the noise. The existing ALT group would not be affected in any way by this proposal because USENET and ALTNET are different and ALT groups are not bound by USENET rules. Also, the continuation of the existing ALT group would mean that an unmoderated forum would also exist. Also, this new group would become the preferred forum for discussions of the Jargon File and submissions to the Jargon File.